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At the NC Parish Councel meeting last NOVEMBER a presentation was given by a Mr S Chambers - a representative from CLOWD -  (Campaign to Limit On shore Windfarm Developments).   This organisation, comprising of local residents from the Villages of Podington, Wymington, Hinwick, Wollaston  was formed specifically to oppose the proposed 'Airfield Wind farm Development'.  In brief, this development is currently for the erection of 9 wind turbines which will be sited on land around Airfield Farm at Hinwick near Podington - roughly a mile southwest of SantaPod.  Each turbine will have a total tip height of 410 feet - (Xscape at MK is 138 feet; a typical national grid pylon is 164 feet), so yeah - that's pretty high. 

Although his talk centred around opposition for the proposed Hinwick development, Mr Chambers also highlighted another proposed development a bit nearer to home - 10 Turbines at Petsoe Manor Farm about 2 miles east of Emberton - this one going under the title of "The Milton Keynes Wind Farm".  And yet another - "Nun Wood"  - 16 fans proposed somewhere near Harrold.  All big ones - 400+ feet high.  OK  my ears pricked up a bit more now - cripes - what's with all these proposed in-shore wind farm developments cropping up all over the place....?

 By now, I was listening quite attentively to what he had to say - and it was obviously very anti the whole thing - not entirely surprising with one of those giants potentially being built on your doorstep - who wouldn't be objecting?.   Well me for one....I want some more information before I start to sign petitions and write to my local MP!

 Like so many uninformed laymen, my gut feel is  - OK  - good.   Wind farms -  green, infinite energy source, clean zero emissive pollution.  Sure,  a bit of noise and depending on your aesthetics, unsightly (or beautiful!)....certainly a lot better than stinking, dirty, oil/coal/nuclear power  stations belching out greenhouse gases/radiation risks etc, etc...all emotive stuff.

But, the trouble is there just doesn't appear to be enough information both pro and con regarding this whole question of the benefits or otherwise of all this wind farm stuff.  Although Mr Chambers had plenty to say about the proposals, most of it seemed to centre around the actual corporations/developers themselves.  Names like "Nuen Renewables" and "Your Energy" with loadsamoney to be made and lots of Government energy subsidies around for the venture capitalist and lucky landowner and little or no thought about the 'negative' environmental impacts etc etc...

Pro or con?.  Bottom-line lets have some more info so at least we can then make an informed objective decision rather than just an emotive subjective shot.  So to start I've gathered together some wind farm plus and minuses (cleaned from various sources - not mine!) and also a couple of links for and against to some of the organisations/groups already mentioned - they all have loads of further links themselves.   There are literally hundreds of sites, corporate, private and governmental both for and against.  Check out a few more  - take your pick - read - become informed and then make a judgment...and... also keep an eye on this page for any further news/info I get. 

Most importantly of all, don't just read - say something.  Lets get a debate going and also give the Parish Council an idea of what we in North Crawley think about the whole issue.  I've already started by giving my personal view - agree or disagree?? - go on say something - I'll post your comments up on this page as well..

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WIND POWER - PRO

WIND POWER - CON

Reduces carbon dioxide emissions and air pollution Landscape and visual impact
Free, available - it won't run out Wind generation is variable (or intermittent at least)
No need to dig underground or drill for it Can potentially increase consumer's electricity costs
Adds to our fuel security Wind farms cause some concern over noise
Flexible - can be generated on land and at sea Potential wildlife and ecological impacts
Technology and design is improving all the time Potential conflict with radar and aviation needs
Becomes more cost-effective as more wind farms are built Perceived impact on house prices and tourism
Low de-commissioning costs Needs lots to replace conventional power plants
Minimal risks of serious accidents Off-shore farms less efficient due to decreased wind strength
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BAYWIND CLOWD
ENERGY4ALL BLEW

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WEBMASTERS VIEW

 I'd like to call myself an environmentalist.  I care about the environment -  I recycle and generally do what I  can to protect the environment (and my conscience).  I ride a motorbike that doesn't take up much room and doesn't eat a lot of gas  - but I've also got a  bloody big 4 x 4 just in case I need it for the school run!

People complain about wind farms, which are far more pleasant an option than the alternatives.  We campaign against nuclear on safety grounds – here, no safety issues.  We whinge about other methods of generating power due to pollution, noise and disruption – again, relatively none with wind farms.  I can appreciate people wanting to protect a beautiful environment but when power pylons were thrown up all over the countryside, few complained then because it was bringing power to their homes and all the things to make life easier.  But now, people are getting choosy as to where their power comes from.  Power – but on our terms  - nothing unsightly on my doorstep, nothing noisy, nothing big, nothing smelly - just nothing that I can see, smell or hear please....with no conditions.

Where do we expect future power to come from?  Sure there are ever growing advances in nuclear technology - cleaner reactors - hydrogen fusion.  Fossil fuel alternatives to burn  - wood pulp, organic rubbish etc etc.  Its still nuclear - still a good target for your terrorist fanatic.  Its still 'burning' - still emissions - albeit less carbonated.

I haven't  read anywhere yet that they are proposing to encircle us all with wind farms.   It's a couple of patches of land.  I just keep hearing arguments about 'Blot on the landscape' and money-making corporations.   Talk about overstressing a point!  Did you see that balloon? - it was a blip, not a blot.  Turbines placed in the middle of the countryside - areas of outstanding natural beauty being destroyed - give me a break!. The pure aesthetic argument is worthless anyway - beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that - you either love them or hate them.

Sure if we were located near enough to it, and facing in the right direction, we would see it - if we choose to look in that direction.  Of an entire 360' view, we would have to stand facing it, by choice.  The further we were from it, the greater it's obstruction by hedges and trees and the horizon - and the sky is clear and clean - with no unsightly emissions of anything!

Most of what I've heard and read so far seems more to be some sort of fight/protest against money-making conglomerates seeking to wreck a way of life, a culture, an 'entire' area of outstanding natural beauty.  Yes, there are companies that will make profit, but surely companies that will contribute to providing us with power without nuclear risks, without further greenhouse gas emissions, without ANY emissions except a bit of noise, without much disturbance but a relatively small area of land where we can see modern hi-tech structures utilising natural infinite clean power - no risks - no polluted air.   Look the other way and they are gone - simple.

Too many people complain about tough decisions but few propose solutions.  Half the time, that's 'cause it's just dead easy to complain - " I don't like it/ I don't want it there/It spoils my view/What about the birdies?/cows?/horses?" - give me strength!.  Yeah,  just too difficult to come up with any alternatives, just sit around, moan and wait for the lights to go out with yet another brown-out - then we can get on our ever-so convenient mobile phones, (we can't use the land-line because we've got a flash cordless jobby that don't work now  'cause the powers gone off!) and proceed to transmit our complaints across the myriads of mobile phone masts now 'blighting' our landscape as well - talk about hypocrisy!!.

And why wasn't I the least bit surprised to hear the Parish Council comment on last months turnout for the Windfarm  presentation as "dissapointing".  Absolutely,  - that's the acid test around here and just highlights the NIMBY attitude so common in this debate scenario.  As long as this isn't going to affect us directly and its not at the bottom of MY garden  - who gives a s~~t.
Still, there are at least a few people out there who can be bothered to take an interest and get the information from ALL sides and thus make an informed decision rather than a simply emotional one - and that' s who, dear reader, this webpage/site exists for - people who can be bothered to look and maybe make a comment or two. As to the the rest of the indifferent/uninformed/NIMBYS out there - well, they probably don't even know this site exists, never mind anything else, so no point in me ranting on...you've probably guessed what  I think of them anyway.

Back on track - actually my argument against Windfarms  is nothing to do with entrepreneurs, location, efficiencies, aesthetics or  green issues at all.  Its much more basic than that.  It's simply my money.  Bottom-line, the consumer is actually going to have to pay more for this 'green' electricity - I'd read between 15-20% more.  That's what  really gets up my nose.  Its just another example of the premium we all continue  to pay for wanting to help the environment, our health, decent and humane animal husbandry and organic farming.  Sure,  middle income and higher can afford to be seen to be green, but for the minimum wage brigade masses its the premium that has to be paid for the green/organic/environmentally friendly products and services that hurts and often simply financially prohibits people genuinely wanting to be green/organic etc. etc.

So what I ask is why can't part of all this Government subsidy/grants/incentives actually find its way back into the consumers pocket via energy subsidies rather than 100% into the pockets of these Wind Farm conglomerates?.  Alternatively, why can't these business entrepreneurs simply feed a proportion of all this financial incentive back to us - the consumer and at the very least give us the electricity at the same price as we currently pay.  Better still, offer cut-price electricity and my complexion will most certainly take on a greener and more blustery  hue.

What do you want to say?

YOUR VIEWS
Considering the most biased article was published in the Olney PhoneBox this month I don't even think my thought would count anyway! It's outrageous that it was saying NO to helping our planet! I found myself thinking, " what are the actual objectives from these so call environmentalists, and why do I live with people like this?"  It seems all they are worried about is the overall look and the cost, so what! Its helping our planet that little bit more. I am more than happy to pay extra in my taxes, I don't get much money but what's money without a planet to spend it on? They need to stop there little protest of stopping this! If these people can come up with a better idea to save our planet......I'm all ears! And trust me, im not the only one that thinks this!  
Kind Regards
 Paul Gallyot 

I went to a parish council meeting about the proposed wind farm development near Poddington.  I could not find the village hall so asked at the Local pub where it was.  It was quite busy I thought for a village pub on a cold midweek night in November. They told me where to go.  When I got there 10 minutes later I was surprised to see less members of the public in the meeting than in the pub. What does that tell us? I think it indicates that there are certain people that have strong views on the matter but the rest of the people are not bothered one way or the other.  My personal view is that we should have as many as possible.  I agree with the comments that each town should have their own wind farm along with other measures.  On looking on CLOWD's website it says they are not against renewable energy but reading between the lines it seems that they are against wind farms/factories. They also state that they are in agreement with,  "All communities sharing the adverse physical, environmental and financial impacts of green energy production equally"  This I agree with,  so why should people in Scotland be producing electricity from wind power and exporting it to England.  If we are all to share the benefits and disadvantages of clean electricity we have to start somewhere.  I am proud to support all the developments that I have seen so far. How many of the anti campaigners are on green energy tariffs if they are so concerned about global warming????   (Chris Tyler )
Sounds familiar!  -   not unlike the PC meetings I attend - mostly more Counsellors than Parishioners..!  wm

It may have been fairer if webmaster explained that the 'blip' of the air balloon on our horizon was being put there to show an indication of the proposed height of the turbines (not the size) The balloon is only apx 20ft wide, whereas the turbine blades are apx 295ft wide (the size of a jumbo jet). It perhaps gives people a better indication of what they may be looking at in the future.
Personally, I'm not interested in entering into debates or arguments with anyone over the subject, we are all entitled to our own opinion. I do however feel strongly that everyone who may be affected by this in the future, whatever the reason for that might be, is entitled to be given all the facts beforehand.
The responsibility for this should lay with the proposed developer. If they are really interested in our future, then why not invest some time & effort and put up displays and more importantly feed back from other residents of existing developments into every single village or household that will be affected by them in any way at all.
This should then result in everyone knowing what either may or may not happen on our doorstep and more importantly, the reaction of people who are living with it already.
After all, in all other walks of life both in business & privately, people relate to feedback and recommendations to base future plans on. Should this be any different??
Lets hope we are given the opportunity of being given facts to base our judgement on and not just individual personal opinions...either for or against !
(name supplied)

good word - 'feedback'.  Sorry, this site certainly IS interested in your feedback/comment/argument  as is the Parish Council....comments fuel debate, debate promotes awareness, awareness demands information...More comments please.. wm.

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